Integrate Those Quotes, Y'all!
You all already should've read the Integrating Sources section in your
textbook (starting on pg. 61), so I'm going to build on that rather than
repeat what you've already read. Integrating your secondary source
material into your PSA as you create your SSI is a really important part
of the process.
Ex. Because NFL athletes are often young and don't receive any formal financial training, "nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives" (McGregor 92).
Ex. "Nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives," suggesting that NFL players are not provided with the right financial tools to manage the large sums of money they temporarily bring in (McGregor 92).
The popcorn method involves sprinkling short snippets of quoted material within your own sentence.
Ex. The NFL has a known issue with players "fil[ing] for bankruptcy" and has down little to address the issue with affects "nearly half of all pro-football players" (McGregor 92).
You can see how with each of these methods, the writer is using the quoted material to boost what they're saying rather than letting the source material take over the sentence. We don't want the reader to have to interpret the quoted material on their own or what for a new sentence to accomplish that work. Your paper will flow smoother and your quoted materials will seamlessly support your own ideas rather than dominating your voice right off the page.
For your response:
EITHER, how have you integrated quoted material in the past? Are you a heavy paraphraser? A quote dropper? A long quote fan? (which we want to avoid for the ARP, but is definitely okay in other classes if that's what the assignment calls for).
OR, what makes you nervous or concerns you about implementing quote integration? Is this something you've done before? Have you done it differently for other classes? Is quote integration something you're really excellent at?
OR, follow up to at least TWO students responses.
Pitfalls to avoid:
- Quote dropping: including a full sentence or more of quoted material into your paper without any of your own words.
- Using Attributes instead of Integration: Phrased like "According to Dr. Abdul" and "In her article, "The Sound and the Furry," Catalina Gorbenson says, 'BLAH BLAH BLAH.'" When you use attribution tags to identify where your quote came from (the article title) or who wrote it (the author), you aren't actually engaging with the content of the quote. While it's helpful to include acknowledge sources both in your text as well as in your citations, that's not full quote integration because you aren't showing the reader that you understand the content of the quote and how it relates to your topic.
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How to Integrate Those Quotes!
Method 1: Introduction
When you integrate you quoted material using the introduction method, you begin your sentence with your own words and then transition to the quoted material.Ex. Because NFL athletes are often young and don't receive any formal financial training, "nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives" (McGregor 92).
Method 2: Interpretation
Integrating your quotes using the interpretation method means you'll begin your sentence with the quote material and then shift to your own words.
Ex. "Nearly half of all pro-football players will file for bankruptcy at least once in their lives," suggesting that NFL players are not provided with the right financial tools to manage the large sums of money they temporarily bring in (McGregor 92).
Method 3: Popcorn Quotes
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Ex. The NFL has a known issue with players "fil[ing] for bankruptcy" and has down little to address the issue with affects "nearly half of all pro-football players" (McGregor 92).
You can see how with each of these methods, the writer is using the quoted material to boost what they're saying rather than letting the source material take over the sentence. We don't want the reader to have to interpret the quoted material on their own or what for a new sentence to accomplish that work. Your paper will flow smoother and your quoted materials will seamlessly support your own ideas rather than dominating your voice right off the page.
For your response:
EITHER, how have you integrated quoted material in the past? Are you a heavy paraphraser? A quote dropper? A long quote fan? (which we want to avoid for the ARP, but is definitely okay in other classes if that's what the assignment calls for).
OR, what makes you nervous or concerns you about implementing quote integration? Is this something you've done before? Have you done it differently for other classes? Is quote integration something you're really excellent at?
OR, follow up to at least TWO students responses.
Especially back in early high school I was a heavy quote dropper. As I worked my up from a freshman all the way to a senior my quote dropping slowly waned as my writing improved; however, once in a while there would be a sentence of unoriginal text supporting my thesis, but with no integration whatsoever. While reviewing others' papers I was very adept at catching their quote drops, but never my own. I have been guilty in participating in long quotes every once in a while, but never as often or egregious as my quote drops.
ReplyDeleteI was the exact same in high school. To fill my paragraphs with evidence, I would drop a quote, then explain why I put it there and follow with another quote, explanation, and so on. There was no flow. Now, I'm hoping to do a lot more popcorn quoting so that more of my own ideas can be incorporated and my writing is easier to read.
DeleteWhen I first introduced to this method, I was a very heavy quote dropper. I remember in one paper my freshman year, I inserted an entire paragraph of quotes to make my point. I didnt introduce the quote or topic, I just put it right in there. Later, I learned how to properly insert quotes after submitting the paper. I still do it many times, and I always forget to properly insert the quote in and to make sure I explain the context of the quote that I just inserted. I tend to forget to explain it as well, there have been many times where I just insert the quote and the very next sentence I would be on a completely different topic. Thankfully, the person who is giving me feedback always reminds me to go back and fix it.
ReplyDeleteVidhi Daga.10
I started out the exact same way as you described. I would just insert a full quote and a full sentence without any words to begin or end the sentence. However, over the years with learning and getting more comfortable, I feel as if I can introduce or chop up quotes into a better flowing sentence.
DeleteI shared the exact same way quoting in my freshman year too. I think the progress for us is knowing how to select useful parts and insert them properly.
DeleteMost of the writing I have done in college has been mostly paraphrasing material from sources where applicable. I will usually state information from a source, cite it, and then use my own words to analyze what the source was saying and how it relates to my topic. When using quotes in high school, I was definitely a quote dropper, analyzing the quote was always hard for me. In the SSI my goal is to use short efficient quotes that will be beneficial in explaining my topic and explain them well and effectively.
ReplyDeleteIn college, I also do the same. I paraphrase more than actually quote material. I've written two research papers for biology classes in college and in both papers, our professors highly discouraged using quotes. However, in high school, I used quotes alot.
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Delete-Indira Guha
One thing that I was never really taught how to do, nor have I ever truly used, is paraphrasing. The good news about this is that as one of the number of ways we should avoid using quotes in our writing, I won't have to worry about this one. I prefer to use opinions and back things up with evidence. In this way, I want to find a way of making use of this habit with popcorn quoting.
DeleteI also always paraphrase materials because it's convient and accurate
DeleteI am a long quote fun, as long quotes can provide information more accurately and professionally, because the sources that I choose to quote are from famous writers or trustworthy magazines. They are experts in that areas, so it is better to use their words than mine. Moreover, I want to show the logic in the sources that I quote, and it is hard to show the logic or reasoning with a few words. However, I try to use short quote now, as the papers I wrote are supposed to show my ideas, so it is better for these sources to serve my paper. And, the three strategies mentioned in this post may be a good start to use short quotes instead of long quotes.
ReplyDeleteYukun Zheng(Zheng.1608)
I felt the same way during my freshman year. I was tend to believe that the words from those professionals are far better than mine so that made me addicted to using quotes.
DeleteWhen I was in high school I would always try to do the first method, but it would always end up being a heavy paraphraser. This makes me nervous about trying to implement quotes because sometimes it could be hard trying to get that quote to work the way you want it too. For example, you have a great quote that you want to use and you know it would be a perfect fit for what your writing, but you exactly don’t know how to integrate the quote into your writing, which is extremely frustrating.
ReplyDeleteIn high school, I felt the same way. However, in my junior year of high school, I learned to understand how to include brackets within quotes to modify the quote so it can make sense. For example, if the verb within the quote was in the wrong verb form, I could change it to the correct one with the use of brackets.
DeleteIn the past I have integrated quoted material mostly in high school English research papers. Early in my writing career I was a quote dropper with long quotes try to fill up as much space as possible to meet length requirements. However, after some practice I have learned how to properly integrate and explain quotes more effectively. Additionally, I have improved my select of quotes making them more meaningful and important.
ReplyDeleteMy quote integration changes from English class to English class because each teacher has told me to put in quotes a different way. I prefer using the introduction method because it allows the paper to flow well with the quotes. For more complicated quotes I commonly use the interpretation method because I enjoy building upon quotes and explaining them thoroughly in my papers.
ReplyDelete- Sara Kodish
I agree that quote integration changes from class to class. Generally, in my main paragraphs or main points, I like to use the popcorn method, to really help prove my analysis of whatever point I'm trying to make.
Delete-Indira Guha
I would consider myself as a heavy paraphraser and a quote dropper since I have never learned how to integrate quotes into my essay in high school before. My high school teacher always tell me to quote/attribute things so I don't lose credit or my paper to be seen plagiarized. After reading your examples, I feel much more confident into integrating these new quoting styles into mine for the upcoming paper. The method #3 popcorn quotes is a little confusing for me to use but method #1 and #2 are real easy to understand and use.
ReplyDeleteI am not really good at implementing quote integration. The concerns I have for implementing quote integration is sometimes the original sentence is condense enough and it looks unnecessary to add more sentence in my own words. In this situation, how can we process? How much of referencing sentence can we add to our essay that would be just enough to present the idea both original and professional?
ReplyDeleteIn high school I rarely used quotes and didn't really know the best way to use them. When I did use them, I typically went just using the whole sentence. I've never really heard about these other methods mentioned but I'll be sure to try them out some time.
ReplyDelete- Brad Knez
For me, I think using quote is really convenient and can support my argument well
DeleteReema Gupta
ReplyDeleteBack in high school, I was a very heavy paraphraser. Usually my technique was to start a paper with a big quote and explain the points that support my quotes in different paragraphs. I think I still don’t know how to insert quotes properly in my paper. So quote integration is something which I am really nervous about my paper. I don’t really know how to use written sources in your paper, so quoting would be a bit difficult for me. The concerns which I have regarding quoting in my paper is that , I don’t really know till what extent I can use quotes from the other author and use it to explain my point.
Yes, I have done the quote integration before when I was taking the ESL1902. However, I usually paraphrase the material rather than quote it directly. I am worried about my way of quoting is tedious. So it is excited to see that there are so many ways the integrate quotes and I can't wait to use them in my essay.
ReplyDeleteIn high school, I mainly used popcorn quote, quoting just enough to get the point across. Most of the quotes I used were no more than five words long. I personally find quote integration pretty manageable. I just need to brush up on my citation and I definitely need to work on my analysis of the quote. I often just drop in the quote and assume that the audience understands why it is there, however that's not always the case.
ReplyDeleteIn the past, I've followed something that is relatively close to method 2. I was taught to follow the routine of
ReplyDelete1. introduce the topic
2. mention source/quote/whatever
3. explain the source/quote/whatever
This process could take place in one sentence or across a whole paragraph.
--Parker Spielvogel
I usually paraphrase at first because I like to think about the idea of writer and write it out with my language. But, when I find it is difficult to paraphrase on the base of expressing the same idea with the writer, I will write a quote sentence. I always think about that if I can express the original meaning of the writer. If the answer is YES, I will paraphrase. Otherwise, I will quote directly and put my citation behind.
ReplyDeleteAs with most growing writers, I was a huge quote dropper. Up until about high school, and perhaps including freshman year, I quoted the longest sentences, and sometimes did not properly integrate the quote. I was never properly taught that anything was wrong with that until my later years of school. Maybe some motivation for doing that was to meet the word count requirement! :-) However, as I progressed with my writing, I started doing the popcorn quotes quite frequently, and I enjoy doing that.
ReplyDelete-Miqaela Weller.133
In the past years, I often quote a lot because I am not good at paraphrasing a large quantity of information. I might just want to include all the information in time and I thought that was easy for reader to understand. After I took times on learning English writing, I start trying to paraphrasing sorter information. But, still, I believe quote can give the reader direct feeling to the reader about what I want to explain.
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, I usually did not use quotation in my writing before I entered the college and learned the "college-writing". I learned how to use quotation properly In my first English class in the OSU. However, finding source is extremely hard for me because I do not know where will be some sentences that accord with my idea in the ocean-like library.
ReplyDeleteIn the past, I was a heavy quote dropper, I was basically addicted to it. If i didn't drop a quote I felt like my essay wasn't great. But I honestly believe that it's something they teach you to do when you are younger. Now that I've been writing a lot of technical papers, I've been doing it a lot less. But I would be lying if I didn't admit to dropping a quote in my Primary Source Analysis. For now on thought, it's gone.
ReplyDeletecaraballo.29
Victor Caraballo
DeleteWhen I was in high school, I was asked to use different method of quotation, but I prefered to use the third one at that time because it is freer for me to integrate the material. However, it sometimes makes me nervous about making mistakes when quoting because it will be hard for me to find proper location to insert the quotation. For example, I usually have lots of quote that I want to integrate , but my essay looks quite fluent without the quotation, which makes me consider whether to integrate the materials for a long time.
ReplyDeleteYuhao Chen
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It makes me nervous when quoting a long quote. I do not want my article looks so long and quoting can be a distraction. Also, I am worry about that quoting too much information would be consider as plagiarism. I have done the quote from my high school English class, it just the same as I learned today. However, I usually restate the fact instead of quoting. I think I am good at these things.
ReplyDeleteI would say I used to be a quote dropper. I often use "according to someone", "based on some paper" in my writing, and then discuss the quotation after these sentences. This behavior definitely causes the paper less fluent and harder to read (through writing in this way takes me less effort). I will absolutely try to avoid drop quotes into the paper this time!
ReplyDeleteThis is going to be something I am very comfortable doing for the ARP as I have done it in past English classes very effectively even when I wasn't asked to do it as a requirement. Traditionally, in the past I have tried to avoid the really long quotations as described above, so honestly I'm glad to finally be able to put this ability to use and be forced to quote sources in this manner rather than some of the previous ways I had been asked to quote materials for writings.
ReplyDeletejiang.1647
ReplyDeleteWhen I was doing research paper in my freshman year, we have another method to make quotations. The things that I concern the most is the reality of my quotation and the interpretation of my quotations. I am not really good at quote interpretation and I am afraid using too many quotation will be consider as plagiarism.
When I was in high school, I did not use any quotation in my writing, because we should write our article on the papers, and our teacher asked us to write by ourselves. After I learned about analysis and narration by English, I started to understand how to use quotation to improve my writing appropriately. When I evaluated the articles of others, I liked to quote some wonderful and interesting sentences and words to show my understanding of their articles and then remembered these good sources. When I described or narrated something, I like to quote one or two short sentences from my favorite books to make my articles more interesting. However, I do not like to use a lot of quotations, because I think that too many quotations would mess up my articles.
ReplyDeleteLihuang Zhang
The most thing I worried about the quotation is hot to cite the appropriate contents. In my past writing class, I was taught how to use APA citation in my paper and all citation I've done seem not good. The combination of the quotas and my words is really difficult to me. If possible, I would like to try the integrate the quotas in this class.
ReplyDelete--Duoyuan Wang
The biggest problem I have when I integrated quotes into a paper in the past is that I was a big quote dropper. I would not provide any introduction or follow the quote up with any information. Rather, I would find a quote that supported my thesis and would just put it into my paper. As I progressed through my high school career, my writing ability grew so I grew to not quote drop as much, but it was still a somewhat common occurrence for there to be a quote drop in many of my papers. I have also struggled learning when to cut off a sentence to use in a quotation, so many times, my quotes have been unnecessarily lengthy. I need to learn how to cut off a quote with getting the main idea without taking all the not needed text along with it.
ReplyDeleteWhile using quotes as pieces of evidence, I have always found myself using too much of the quote- which i know we want to avoid for the ARP! I also definitely know that when using quotes I tend to use "this person said" or "he/she thought" which is also something I know I need to avoid. I do enjoy using quotes as evidence though because I know it makes any argument seem more valid. I also think that adding quotes from other people adds different perspectives and emotions to a piece of writing. I definitely think that I am going to use a quote from my favorite band to open my essay.
ReplyDelete-Emma Lorenzo
I don't integrate quotes a lot into my writing in the past mainly because I wasn't sure of the right way to integrating the quote. Often I'm afraid to do it because I'm not sure what the proper format is, such as using the right symbols. Also, I'm poor at trying to prove a point using quotes, I tend to just point out an evidence in my writing just by saying it out. I think all of these were the cause of a lack of practice in writing. And my teacher in high school never taught me about this.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first started high school, I used to do my quotes word for word, and I was a heavy quote dropper because I always ended up writing too little when I needed to reach the required four or five pages. It’s the opposite now, which isn’t bad because every class I’ve had at OSU required that we didn’t use long quotes. I find that I write too much and end up having to use very small quotes and paraphrase them so they won’t take up too much space. I like to avoid long quotes because I feel that they make my paper look a little messy. I’ve noticed that people tend to hate reading quotes that are full of information they couldn’t care less about, so I’ve had better luck paraphrasing that kind of information.
ReplyDeleteI used to be a quote dropper. Because in the past i lack to skill to combine the resources to my article and explain it after integrating the resource. And i find a lot of problem if i just make quotations of the resources. I can't make my readers have a connection between the resources and my article easily. And the quotation of resources is not so convincing. I would like to change my writing method in the future.
ReplyDeleteFeifan Wang
Alexa Marshall
ReplyDeleteIn the past, I have never had to integrate quotes for a paper. I have always relied on being a quote dropper rather than integrating quotes. I have never been a long paraphraser because most of my past classes have told me to avoid that. I usually write an opening sentence that will help me transition into the quote. I then insert the quote cited. Then I will build off of the quote and further analyze it. It makes me really nervous to start integrating quotes. The idea of doing "Integrat[ing]" and using the closed bars saves me because I have never had to do that before. I don't know how good my quotes are going to be and I don't know how I will build off of it if I have to integrate it into a paragraph. In my high school English classes, I only did quote dropping. They told us to stay away from integrating quotes unless we knew how to do that already. They never really taught us how to specifically do that. Quote integration is something I am not really good at or looking forward to. I feel like my background has not helped me work up to this point. I was in academic english classes my whole life and I feel as if I am behind. I feel like I made the mistake of not taking Honors or AP English in high school because I think they would have learned this technique.
I used to be a heavy quote dropper in my freshman year when I started out the academic writing. I felt like I was not confident about my own words and supposed the words of those professionals were far better than mine, so I was addicted with quotes. However, as my writing improves, I do not rely on the quotes that much and gradually realize how to select the useful parts of quotes and insert them in my paper properly. I'm more likely to combine my interpretation with quotes which serves my writing more effectively. Also, I would like to avoid long quotes which will easily make the readers tired.
ReplyDeleteBefore I become a college student, I hardly ever use quotes in my writing, because I didn't need to write so professional papers and the article that I read were less which means the source that I can quote at that time is less. Plus, people don't care heavily about quotation before college in my country, so I didn't have a strong awareness about using quotation, I think maybe I integrate lots of quotes by interpretation method and introduction method but I didn't notice that I quoted a source.
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ReplyDeleteIn my previous articles, I am a long quote fan that I always quote a long paragraph from other people's text. I think the reason is that I didn't really understand why I need to include those contents at the place I quote. So next time I have to think carefully about this. Also, sometimes I even should not do some of the quotes I did before because it's meaningless.
ReplyDeleteYunjie Shi
Cadmon Osei-Amanquah
ReplyDeleteI will consider myself a heavy paraphraser. In most papers, I like to include a statement or fact from another author to support my idea but I generally paraphrase it to help fit my paper more smoothly. I sometimes add direct quotes depending on the topic of the paper. The more factual the paper is, such as a scientific research paper, I generally lean towards a heavy quote dropper, but the more opinionated a paper is, the more I tend to be more of heavy paraphraser. These type of papers are generally ideas or concepts I am supporting.